Exclusive: Thyssenkrupp, Fincantieri in talks to form warship champion - source

Reuters

Published May 13, 2020 14:41

Updated May 13, 2020 17:20

By Christoph Steitz, Tom Käckenhoff and Sabine Siebold

FRANKFURT/DUESSELDORF/BERLIN (Reuters) - Thyssenkrupp (DE:TKAG) is exploring several strategic options for its warship unit, ranging from combining it with Italy's Fincantieri (MI:FCT) to creating a national champion with German peers, a person familiar with the matter said.

The talks are aimed at creating economies of scale for the division, Thyssenkrupp Marine Systems (TKMS), which builds submarines and surface ships and operates in a highly fragmented sector driven by political decisions, the source said.

As part of the deliberations, the steel-to-car parts conglomerate is in talks with shipbuilder Fincantieri about a 50-50 joint venture to create a European champion with combined sales of 3.4 billion euros (3.00 billion pounds), the person said.

Under that scenario Fincantieri, which also builds cruise ships and is majority-owned by the Italian government, would bring in its defense activities, which the source said accounted for 1.6 billion euros of sales last year.

Thyssenkrupp declined to comment.

Fincantieri declined to comment on concrete talks. A spokesman added: "The consolidation of the European defense industry remains desirable and the long-standing cooperation with Germany's naval industry to build submarines represents a concrete opportunity to talk about future scenarios of consolidation".

Thyssenkrupp is also in early discussions to merge TKMS with smaller German rivals Luerssen and German Naval Yards (GNYK) to create a national powerhouse in a bid to keep critical defense technology in the country and safeguard jobs, the source said.

GERMAN DEFENSE CHAMPION

One option under discussion includes Luerssen buying a stake of just over 50% in GNYK in a first step, with Thyssenkrupp possibly becoming involved at a later stage, two people familiar with the matter said.

"That's one scenario under discussion," one of the people said.

GNYK declined to comment. A spokesman for Luerssen reiterated earlier comments that consolidation made sense and was a requirement to strengthen international competitiveness.

"We know that there are talks," said Daniel Friedrich, who heads IG Metall Kueste, the powerful German union's arm responsible for workers in coastal areas, adding national consolidation was the right step to kick off consolidation.

"The subsequent step would be a European idea. We would then have to talk about how we can make it work with global players such as Fincantieri, such as Naval (Group) in France, that not only have European sites but are present globally."

Thyssenkrupp might also decide to keep the division, which generated 1.8 billion euros of sales and 1 million of adjusted operating profit in the last fiscal year, and develop it further on its own, the source said.

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Thyssenkrupp late last year said it planned to invest 250 million euros at TKMS by 2023, encouraged by good order intake and adding it would hire 500 new employees by the end of this year.